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miltonisallatsea asked:

Hey loving all of your 'Everything Everywhere All at Once posts. Say what do you think of the scene where we see Waymond dance with Rick and saying he is an actor, and Evelyn should try to get into the local theater. Do you think Waymond was always trying to encourage Evelyn to continue to pursue her dreams, but she couldn't even hear his pep talks and support because she had frown so frustated with the state of her relationship with Joy? And that frustation, sadness, anger, etc inevitably affected her marriage?

everythingeverywhereallatonce answered:

actually i don’t think that’s it at all! they’re definitely connected but i think it’s a different causation/correlation than what you’ve described. sorry this is going to be long because this is a really interesting point and i’m gonna get into it…

to me, i don’t think the state of her relationship with joy is what caused the difficulties with her marriage or her inability to pursue any other dreams, but in fact those were all symptoms of the same thing—the thing at the root of it all imo is the fact that, for a lot of chinese immigrant families (probably other immigrant families as well), many of us live our lives in almost a constant state of anxiety and desperation to simply survive. to just make it through. i just suddenly thought of that quote from station eleven, “survival is insufficient,” and how that is very much the exact opposite of the worldview that was explicitly drilled into my head from a young age—to my parents, and to some extent to me still to this day, survival is all we can hope for. all we can do is make the best of the situations we are given, to not take unnecessary risks, to make the smartest and most calculated choice to avoid inevitable looming catastrophe. to make it through every day. any more than that is asking too much, is too greedy, is dangerous.

and especially for first-generation immigrants like evelyn or my own parents, the idea of “following your dreams” is a completely ludicrous and foreign idea, one that is very american (derogatory). they came here with so little and had no blueprint for a path forward and so little idea of what was even possible for them in this entirely new world that all they thought they could possibly hope for was to build some sort of foundation in order to allow their children a little more safety than they themselves had—not freedom to pursue their dreams, but security to at least never suffer the way previous generations have. it’s weird because so many of our parents came here in pursuit of some vague nebulous idea of an american dream that was sold to them, but imo they don’t conceptualize it in the same way—even though the only goal they had was to provide a better life for their children, it still doesn’t make sense for them if their children have a different / “more american” view of what that dream means, or what it even means to have a dream beyond what is right in front of you and the bare minimum it takes to survive in the least risky, most secure way possible.

there are some ways in which evelyn is very markedly different from my parents, specifically in that she did make one choice for herself, which was to go to america with waymond and marry for love. and that’s why that choice was such a huge inflection point in her life in the whole multiverse of it all—obviously the choice to immigrate, as i’ve talked about before, is probably THE biggest possible choice that anyone can possibly make that will affect not only their own life but the lives of their children and everyone who comes after, but for evelyn specifically it’s also the one time she really noticeably went against her father’s wishes and against the safer, more pragmatic path, and instead made, as i mentioned earlier, a selfish choice. something just for her own happiness. something based on her feelings and not What Was Best. and i think there is a lot of guilt and anxiety that she carries from that still, that we see in her relationship with her father, her behavior overall and the way she lives and perceives her life, and how the multiverse manifests itself. imo she carries this idea that she kind of both needs to make up for that selfishness by working extra hard and not veering from the completely unselfish single-minded pursuit of survival, and to also prove to her father that she did not make a mistake.

my parents very much did not marry for love. romantic love, honestly, is not even really a concept in their vocabulary or their entire worldview. to them and a lot of folks in their generation, marriage was again about security, about building a life and a partnership, about duty, about sharing the load, but in no way about something so vague and emotional and flighty as “love.” honestly it was just something you did because you were supposed to do it. and it’s part of why, i think, to a lot of folks in my parents’ generation, something like being gay makes no sense to them. because it is a selfish decision, to come out and choose to live your life based on that, it is something that is driven purely by your inner feelings. it makes no sense from their perspective because it makes your life harder than it needs to be. and what’s the tradeoff? love? happiness? what is happiness if not safety and security and food on the table and not having to worry—all things that, objectively, are more accessible for couples in traditional heterosexual partnerships. do not rock the boat. simply survive. (obviously there is still a healthy dose of garden variety homophobia involved, but imo that also stems from a cultural expectation to follow the path that is set out for you. to be “normal,” for your own good.)

to me waymond is an anomaly. i know a lot of people who are like evelyn. even with the one big choice she made that stands out to me, i still see my parents and myself in her. waymond, however, is entirely unfamiliar. i’m not sure if i know anyone in my family’s communities who views and approaches life the way he does. in some ways, waymond is almost a miracle. a mythical figure. and i think that’s the role he plays in the film. the one who is open to love, who is open to dreaming, to celebrating and valuing small selfish personal feelings, to the impractical pursuit of joy and happiness for happiness’s sake and no other purpose. his thesis that he states throughout the film is about kindness, most obviously kindness to those around him that bridges divides and solves seemingly insurmountable problems, but upon reflection i think what makes him so powerful is the capacity he has for kindness to himself.

and that is why at the start of the film, evelyn cannot see him, brushes him off as her silly husband who always does silly meaningless little things that serve no purpose. that dismissiveness that pushes waymond to file for divorce comes not from a place of anger or malice, but from how hard she is on herself, the standard she holds herself to in order to prove her worth and make up for her own decisions / perceived mistakes in the past, and how closed off she is to her own emotions and even the possibility for her own happiness or anything greater, even in the tiniest ways, than the life she has built, to the point where she simply cannot comprehend waymond’s worldview anymore. it’s the same wedge that has driven itself between her and joy (though tbh i think joy is built much more similarly to evelyn than waymond is, and we see that expressed throughout the film). this is something that i see every single day in so many people that i’ve known, myself included, but ultimately it’s evelyn herself—her fears and her desperation for and resignation to mere survival—that ends up isolating her from everyone else. she thinks in the beginning that the choices waymond and joy have made to be a little bit selfish, to prioritize personal happiness, have made their lives harder, more risky, but the Point of the film is that those choices are what make life worth living.

everythingeverywhereallatonce

OH i can’t believe i forgot to mention that while the differences between evelyn’s and waymond’s outlook on life do likely come from differences in their individual personalities, there is also a huge difference in terms of expectations placed on sons vs daughters in chinese culture. and this gendered cultural expectation of obedience and filial piety specifically again ties into evelyn’s guilt which is very specifically about disobeying her father’s wishes, and we see the internalized repercussions of that guilt manifest themselves in her relationship with her daughter, and particularly her expectations wrt joy’s queerness and the direction of her life in general—back to the idea of why can’t you just Do What Is Expected of You, since the reason your parents expect certain things of you is supposedly ultimately for your own good, it is supposedly out of a sense of love that they are able to tell you things you don’t want to hear and that no one else would dare to.

evelyn pushes her daughter (like alpha evelyn pushed alpha joy to her breaking point which is what created jobu tupaki) because that is how she has been pushed, that is what she has been taught was necessary and how she has learned to survive, and that level of pressure is one that i don’t think waymond has personally experienced or is even really able to fully understand. and imo that mindset and cyclical intergenerational trauma comes from a lot of deeply ingrained paternalism/patriarchy that is both fairly widespread across many cultures but also very specific to this one.

my father, while very much not a dreamer or a particularly kind person in the way that waymond is, has been much more free throughout his life and still to this day to pursue any flights of fancy that pass through his mind regardless of how impractical they may be, while my mother and i live in a constant state of anxiety that we will have to pick up the pieces if he pushes his luck too far and is no longer able to make things work out for himself on charm and force of will alone. it is in some ways because my father constantly barrels forward (and never learns from his past mistakes because he does not view them as mistakes since they worked out for him in the end, but the thing he never seems to realize is that they only worked out because my mother and i are constantly cleaning up after him and making sure he doesn’t dig our whole family into a hole) that i think my mother and i have forced our worlds and our lives to remain so small, and are constantly worried about the most pragmatic move and every single thing that might go wrong in every situation.

i saw this in the reactions to turning red, too, of people being much harder on the overbearing mother characters especially in relation to the kind and supportive fathers. and while it is great that we’re dismantling toxic masculinity or whatever with these characters, i just wanted to point out that like… there is more to this story than waymond being Good and Kind (and that being all you really need to get by in this world) and evelyn starting out flawed and eventually showing growth and character development in the end when she learns to be more like her husband.

anyways i just felt like in my original response i was talking about waymond being more open-minded to pursuing his dreams and kinder both to himself and to others stopped short of addressing the broader cultural context for why it might be easier for him to have that sort of outlook on the world and on his own life and why evelyn in contrast still carries so much weight on her shoulders all the time. i think i implied it at least and idk how much it actually needed to be explained because it’s just something that is so obvious to me personally, but i do want to again reiterate that things like personal kindness and openness to pursuing dreams do honestly come easier with a certain amount of privilege depending on how you were born and raised.

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thestuffedalligator

All the weird misinterpretations and revisions of Russian history aside, Anastasia is one of my favourite movies because its plot structure is so fucking weird

It’s a period piece romance. That’s cool, that’s all well and good, except that on the sidelines there’s an undead warlock who’s trying so hard to kill the protagonist, but all in ways that the protagonist either doesn’t notice or doesn’t accept as supernatural

And it isn’t a twist! The audience knows about the warlock! The warlock has a villain song! The warlock is one of the principal characters! But the protagonist spends 95% of the movie completely unaware of the warlock, and just spends the entirety of the movie doing period piece romance things while being repeatedly inconvenienced by the warlock until the climax, when the protagonist has to very suddenly

  1. Acknowledge the existence of the warlock
  2. Acknowledge the existence of the supernatural
  3. See some real-ass goddamn magic
  4. Kill the warlock

I have never seen a movie with a plot structure like this before, and I don’t think I’ll see one like it ever again. It’s like an adaptation of Pride and Prejudice that turns Lady Catherine into a vampire who’s just repeatedly trying to drink Lizzy’s blood, but Lizzy doesn’t even notice until the climax whereupon she stuffs Lady Catherine’s mouth with garlic and cuts off her head (an adaptation I would kill to see, by the way). There are two completely different genres playing out at the same time, and one of them is trying to kill the other

Anyways that’s why the stage musical is bad, thank you and good night

13thsongbird

The only thing I’m adding to this is that Disney’s Hercules has almost the same hero-villain dynamic in that the protagonist and antagonist think they are the heroes of two wildly different stories, and the protagonist doesn’t really know the antagonist exists until the endgame starts. It’s so fucking bizarre. They also both came out in 1997, and feature a red-headed protagonist who starts the story trying to find out who their parents are and falls in love with a shady brunette with dubious intentions who winds up trying to sacrifice themselves so the protagonist can live/be happy. I dunno what this means, but coincidence? I think NOT!

deathcomes4u

Listen that was just the vibe of 97 alright some shit went down that year

deadcatwithaflamethrower

Can confirm: 1997 was weird as fuck.

questions-within-questions

Heh this reminds me of the film The Fifth Element where the hero and villain never meet, let alone get a strong idea of the other’s involvement.

What year did that film come out?

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*whispers* what the fuck

*whispers* what the fuuuukk

headspace-hotel
canorouscepaea

INCREDIBLE GHOST PIPES!!!! this is a species of herbaceous perennials plant, not a mushroom/fungus. although edible, some specimen have been found to be slightly toxic so i didn’t eat these! theyre reportedly similar to asparagus in taste which made me want to try them but i left them alone :(

absolutely THRILLED to have found this organism as they’re fairly rare and just marvelous to look at ˚✧₊⁎❝᷀ົཽ≀ˍ̮ ❝᷀ົཽ⁎⁺˳✧༚ their shape reminds me of lillies of the valley, all droopy and melancholic lookin.

Monotropa uniflora

headspace-hotel

OMG these guys are so cool! They don't photosynthesize at all, despite photosynthesis being a key feature of plants! I believe instead they are symbiotic with fungi?

Truly amazing! Biology will do whatever it can get away with, always breaking boundaries and crossing borders!

uglymelon

They’re parasites on the fungi! The fungi itself is symbiotic with a host plant, such as a tree.

https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/beauty/mycotrophic/whatarethey.shtml

shinykipp asked:

Omg, EVERY time you've posted a book plate, I've thought to myself "I would buy one of those in a second"

Looking forward to you maybe opening sales for them!

Oh awesome, thank you—once I get the portfolio section of my new website squared away I’m hoping to add book plates and maybe some other prints for sale. I will post about that here and on @worm-dark once they’re available!

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